![]() Blogger for Shall Take Care, co-founder of Women Know Law (which is true, there are women that know law) aimed at increasing diversity and equity in law. She focuses on constitutional law and federal courts. She's also a co-host of Strict Scrutiny and occasional, well, frequent guest on my program at MSNBC.Īnd Leah Litman who's assistant professor at University of Michigan. Melissa Murray, who's a professor at NYU Law, faculty director of Birnbaum Women's Leadership Network, which has a mission supporting gender equity in law school and the profession. She's a former Obama White House lawyer and a former Supreme Court clerk for Justice John Paul Stephens. She co-hosts Strict Scrutiny and Rational Review (SIC) as well. And she's a law professor at Cardozo School of Law, Supreme Court contributor at ABC. I host this podcast Why Is This Happening? which tends to be a sort of a long-form interview podcast.Īnd today we're doing a special merger with Strict Scrutiny which is hosted by the aforementioned Kate Shaw, who is the love of my life and my wife. I host All In on MSBNC weeknights at 8:00 p.m. (LAUGH) For those that don't know, I'm Chris Hayes. Well, who knows how many podcasts are in the house. Kate also has Irrational Basis Review.Ĭhris Hayes: That's true. (LAUGHTER) Well, it's actually three because our oldest daughter is now doing a podcast. No." But then it's true that, like, "conjugal" really is just an adjective that means, like, marital.Īnd the reason that it's our first ever conjugal podcast is as, if you listen to Why Is This Happening? or if you listen to Strict Scrutiny, I think we have listeners from both right now in this intro, you know that the Shaw-Hayes household is a two-podcast household. Melissa Murray, who you're gonna hear from in a second, described it as our first-ever conjugal podcast (LAUGH) which cracked me up because I was like, "Whoa, wait. So we don't touch on any of that because this all took place before that argument and decision was handed down. We recorded this episode before the Court had even heard the challenge to the OSHA workplace vaccine mandate and then they issued that decision after that. (MUSIC) And just one more note before we dive in here. Melissa Murray: What explains what has happened more recently has a lot to do with what happened over the Obama administration and the failure of the Obama administration to get judges nominated and confirmed because of the recalcitrance of the right.Ĭhris Hayes: Hello and welcome to a very, very special crossover edition of Why Is This Happening?-slash-Strict Scrutiny podcast with me, your host, or co-host, Chris Hayes. Leah Litman: I don't think tomorrow Neil Gorsuch is gonna write an opinion that says, "I declare Donald Trump king and emperor forever." But I do think they will and have issued decisions that enable democratic decline, enable autocracy, and further undermine democracy to a point where we will no longer recognize our government as a legitimate, healthy democracy. Kate Shaw: (MUSIC) Centering the court in our political lives is something critical and actually, you know, actionable.
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